De tekst is beschikbaar onder de licentie. Another jet of green light flew from behind the silver shield. @rogueshadow: I strongly disagree here. That's way better than Voldemort losing to Albus in less than 10 minutes...Plus, I think it was stated that was Prime Dumbledore vs Grin. Of course Tom was the feared dark wizard in the series. His performance was certainly better, but the addition of prime makes it somewhat hard to judge. @arcus1: @rogueshadow: Well, he stalemated with DD for like hours and their battle was called the battle of the century and stuff. DD vs Grin kept going for hours until Albus won. Voldemort had him bang to rights there to be honest. I know that he had the Elder Wand, but I don't think it'd give him power significant enough to do so many miles better than Tom. Dumbledore was standing in front of the golden gates. Tier: 9-B physically. Dumbledore should win unless they teamed up against him which I doubt they would. @rogueshadow: Dumbledore was certainly holding back against Voldemort. And as I said, it must be recognised that Dumbledore had to rely on Fawkes and the enchanted Ministry statues to save him from death a few times (I can't remember whether he enchanted them or not). No horcruxes or hallows, winner gets the Elder Wand. I searched but didn't come up with it. The spell, whatever it was, caused no visible damage to the shield, though a deep, gong-like note reverberated from it--an oddly chilling sound. Battle takes place at the Ministry of Magic, starting in the Department of Mysteries. Grindelwald is ook een plaats in Zwitserland waar Richard Wagner - die door Hitler werd bewonderd - woonde. He had one left to protect him, which it did by taking a Killing Curse, but had Dumbledore not sent his other statues away they could've taken the Killing Curse in Fawkes's place. First of all, Voldemort himself noted that Dumbledore's spells weren't cast to kill him and pondered why Albus was holding back (which he was). And then he breathed, 'Dumbledore!'. At least High 8-C with regular spells, Low 7-C with more powerful spells, Name: Gellert Grindelwald. That lasted for a day? This is done for several reasons but he certinalh wasn't trying to destroy Voldemort. Follow 35687. For a few seconds Voldemort was visible only as a dark, rippling, faceless figure, shimmering and indistinct upon the plinth, clearly struggling to throw off the suffocating mass--. Wouldn't that mean he would beat Gind. Wasn't it stated or at least implied throughout HP that Voldemort was superior to Grindlewald? I think Spino already applied them, so this can probably be closed if there's not anything else to discuss. Leading towards Voldie. Grindelwand didn't even exist, so why would someone care about him anymore? In Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald ontsnapt Grindelwald uit handen van de autoriteiten en begint hij met het rekruteren van volgelingen om zijn doel te bereiken: dat tovenaars heersen over de wereld en zich niet meer moeten verstoppen voor dreuzels. Large Building level with magic (Was said by many to be the second most powerful Dark Wizard ever, and hence shouldn't be overwhelmingly weaker than Voldemort. A natural leader with near unmatched charisma, his skills, mastery, and understanding of magic were considered to be on par with those of Albus Dumbledore. Newt Scamander en de Amerikaanse tovergemeenschap steken hier ter elfder ure een stokje voor. @klaus: @rogueshadow: I ususally believe that the character would have been hit in situations like those but this is Albus Percival Wullfric Brian Dumbledore so I can give him the benefit of the doubt. I've went back and forth on that one a million times. Been done I believe. Grindelwald became an exceptional strategist and tactician as an adult, whose expertise was perhaps best shown by his ability to start a massive revolution on his own, gathering a large number of followers to establish a new wizarding world order and strategically overwhelming much of the Wizarding world to the point that Dumbledore's tactical advice ultimately proved fruitless, requiring Dumbledore's direct intervention to finally put an end to his For the Greater Good revolution. Hij was een duistere tovenaar, al ver voordat Voldemort leefde. Fought the Dumbledore brothers in a three-way duel) | Wall level physically. Dumbledore had animated statues at the start of the duel, four of which he sent to restrains Harry, Bellatrix and alert the Ministry. Grindelwald, on the other hand, was the … Unknown with magic | Athletic Human physically. Voldemort didn't lose though, the battle between Voldemort and Dumbledore was pretty much unconcluded, Dumbledore encases him in water and Voldemort apparates out of it and starts messing with Harry, then a bunch of Aurors arrive and Voldemort leaves with Bellatrix. called Voldemort, his scarlet eyes narrowed over the top of the shield. Gellert Grindelwald is een personage uit de Harry Potter-boekenserie van J.K. Rowling.Hij was een duistere tovenaar, al ver voordat Voldemort leefde. Harry looked behind him, his heart pounding. Grindelwald zat daar opgesloten totdat Voldemort naar hem toe kwam in de zoektocht naar de Zegevlier. Dumbledore was in complete control the entire time and Voldemort was frustrated and confused. Battle of Hogwarts, Harry's love spell protected everybody. But the headless golden statue of the wizard in the fountain had sprung alive, leaping from its plinth to land with a crash on the floor between Harry and Voldemort. @leo-343: No, like I already said, Dumbeldore's superiocity over either of them was made clear. The statues is not something that is considered "outsider" or "cheating". @leo-343: I'm thinking that Prime is what makes this battle so hypothetical tho. @rogueshadow: Dumbledore was certainly holding back against Voldemort. Gellert Grindelwald is een personage uit de Harry Potter-boekenserie van J.K. Rowling. Wouldn't that mean he would beat Gind, I'm pretty sure that was regularly implied if not outright stated, http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Most_Dangerous_Dark_Wizards_of_All_Time, Maybe Grindlewald got to demonstrate stuff that is better than what Voldemort got to demonstrate, idk, but in the series it seems consistently stated that Voldemort was more dangerous, Only British wizards actually seem to think that Voldemort was the most powerful dark wizard. Maar de plannen van Grindelwald namen zulke groteske en gevaarlijke vormen aan dat hij er uiteindelijk niet meer onderuit kon om te proberen Grindelwald te stoppen. A student at Durmstrang Institute, Grindelwald was expelled for conducting twisted, dark experiments. I don't think the witnesses and the time meant so much. Ze zouden meester van de dood worden nadat zij de drie Relieken van de Dood hadden gevonden. Secondly, Dumbledore animated those statues himself. Er is gespeculeerd dat Rowling bewust een verband zou hebben gelegd tussen Grindelwald en Adolf Hitler (de Tweede Wereldoorlog eindigde immers ook in 1945). The whole fight Voldemort was trying to kill Dumbledore, while Dumbledore was merely keeping him at bay and wasn't trying to fight back. At least Large Building level with magic (Likely superior to old Dumbledore. Dumbledore wins because of the Elder Wand. There's much more to it and more evidence but that's the general gist of it. In het laatste boek en in de films Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them & Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald speelt hij een veel grotere rol. cried Voldemort, staring around. The Elder wand is a pretty potent factor, it's clearly not as powerful as many in the HP world believe, i.e. Voldemort was kwaad en teleurgesteld en vermoordde hem. @arcus1: @sanitrize1999: I don't recall those. I already said, I know he had the elder wand but I just don't think its power is good enough to make him so much better. In the real world, we face villains of every sort. Class 5 to Class 10 with magic (Comparable to Dumbledore. MACUSA was forced to cut out his tongue after he convinced 3 different prison guards to try and help him escape), Telekinesis, Precognition (Made an illusion of notable events from World War II to his followers out of smoke), Electricity Manipulation (Can summon lightning bolts), Fire Manipulation and Regeneration Negation with Fiendfyre, Can cause Shockwaves, Invisibility, Teleportation, Death Manipulation via the Killing Curse, Pain Manipulation via the Cruciatus Curse, Mind Control via the Imperius Curse, Potioncraft, Shapeshifting (Made himself appear as one of his followers), Healing, Forcefield Creation via Shield Charms, Resistance to Mind Reading and Mental Attacks via Occlumency, Water Manipulation, Transmutation, Attack Potency: Wall level physically.